Godfather Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 e razbra li sega zashto vsichko tova sux? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weasel Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 e razbra li sega zashto vsichko tova sux? abe ne znam koe *sux* i koe *ne*sux*, no btc-net si e "po-dobroto" ISP mislq che daje i dialup userite na btk minavat prez dtag.de ..i kato trygnat da mi obqsnqvat kak 128k ot btk struval dva miliona srybski dinara i t.n. ...napravo izdivqvam, vse edno satelitite na itd mogat da se sravnqvat s dtag.de Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 otidete i viste na www.freenet.de kolko struva internet po dsl v germaniq i posle mi kazete kakva e razlikaata s naste dostavchici i osobeno ako nqkoi znae dobre nemski da preprochete za kakvo stava dumas toto az vidqh naeta liniq dsl za 50 evro s skorost 1.5 mb koeto vkluchva i naema za liniqta taka che a ako nqkoi znae informaciq za isp provaideri prez satelit i ceni na koito te predlagat uslugite si dvuposocheni razbirase a ako nqkoi ima informaciq za satelitkite na itd da pishe podrobno kakvoto znae kum koi server sa i drugi rboti i ceni razbirasse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGN Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 otidete i viste na www.freenet.dekolko struva internet po dsl v germaniq Konkurencia mu e spasenieto. I BTC maj seriozno se gotvjat za home users.Njamam pred vid dial-up. Ama ste pogiveem ste vidim. Ne sa malko userite v Plovdiv i borbata ste e seriozna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Когато дойде време да можем да сравняваме нета в Германия с нета в България (и като цена и като качество) бирата ще е безплатна. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfather Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Когато дойде време да можем да сравняваме нета в Германия с нета в България (и като цена и като качество) бирата ще е безплатна. Е-е-е-х, dreamer, мечти Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veno Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 ami pusni malko traceroutes nasam-natam i se ubedi sam chast ot trafika e prez france telecom, da.. no vse pak deutsche telecom si e drugo... itd->btk->france telecom... --- www.google.com ping statistics --- 50 packets transmitted, 46 packets received, 8% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 500.689/546.166/655.169/27.529 ms --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- btk -> deutsche telecom --- www.google.com ping statistics --- 50 packets transmitted, 50 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 256.696/266.630/292.284/6.447 ms ----------- makar i po-dobre ot alter.net, vse pak delay si e dvoino po-golqm ...ama koi za kakvoto si e platil, vse pak i spored teb wremezakusnenieto e ot towa che trafika minawa prez francetelecom li ? i shto reshi che deutsche telekom e po-dobre ot france telekom ??? to ako beshe taka btk nqmashe da imat 155 mbita ot france telekom i samo 34 mbita ot deutsche telekom.... Skoro kato imaha problemi sus france telekom, ako si zabelqzal traffic-a ot btk na itd minawashe prez deutsche telekom.... taka che spored men towa za razlikata w kachestwoto na france telekom i deutsche telekom sa absolutni gluposti.... veno@laptop:~$ traceroute www.google.com traceroute to www.google.com (216.239.33.99), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 ge-10-0-0-3.peering1.Evrocom.Net (212.39.92.1) 0.673 ms 2.058 ms 0.592 ms 2 border1.Evrocom.Net (217.10.240.141) 14.076 ms 2.266 ms 1.127 ms 3 Evrocom-BtcNet.btc-net.bg (212.39.66.57) 1.131 ms 1.305 ms 0.954 ms 4 149_70.btc-net.bg (212.39.70.149) 4.143 ms 4.038 ms 3.990 ms 5 br-sf.btc-net.bg (212.39.64.50) 3.885 ms 5.017 ms 6.703 ms 6 62.156.138.129 (62.156.138.129) 85.257 ms 228.060 ms 204.462 ms 7 * * * 8 M-SA1.M.DE.net.dtag.de (62.154.5.133) 133.712 ms 138.210 ms 133.158 ms 9 F-SA1.F.DE.net.dtag.de (62.154.0.81) 133.156 ms 132.068 ms 135.224 ms 10 F-SA2.F.DE.net.dtag.de (62.154.17.158) 143.333 ms 135.969 ms 136.700 ms ..... bash-2.05b$ traceroute www.google.com traceroute to www.google.com (216.239.37.99), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets 1 ge-10-0-0-3.peering1.Evrocom.Net (212.39.92.1) 0.525 ms 0.691 ms 0.353 ms 2 border1.Evrocom.Net (217.10.240.141) 1.389 ms 1.192 ms 0.963 ms 3 gigabit-ethernet-evrocom.ITDNet.net (212.116.128.233) 1.045 ms 0.903 ms 1.049 ms 4 212.116.128.5 (212.116.128.5) 1.579 ms 1.265 ms 1.272 ms 5 border-2.sofia.ITDNet.net (212.116.136.10) 33.350 ms 161.666 ms 26.288 ms 6 212.39.66.105 (212.39.66.105) 5.840 ms 5.186 ms 6.248 ms 7 212.39.91.129 (212.39.91.129) 253.077 ms 95.345 ms 95.661 ms 8 Ge15-1.AUVBB1.Aubervilliers.opentransit.net (193.251.254.113) 95.544 ms 97.841 ms 91.172 ms 9 P11-0.AUVCR1.Aubervilliers.opentransit.net (193.251.243.161) 89.956 ms 100.755 ms 91.760 ms 10 P14-0.PASCR3.Pastourelle.opentransit.net (193.251.243.186) 89.410 ms 91.748 ms 89.485 ms 11 So0-0-0.TELBB1.Telehouse.opentransit.net (193.251.241.177) 89.453 ms 90.247 ms 89.080 ms ...... Az razlika ne wijdam Estestweno i w 2ta sluchaq obratniq traffic e po nazemna liniq. Chiniqta e maikata, ama koito ne iska chiniq, da si kupi ot btk internet ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfather Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Az razlika ne wijdam veno, vajnoto e, che weasel ia "vijda" taia razlika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 iam kompanii koito biha dostavili mnogo evtin internet do rumunskata ni granica ama trqbva samo da se izgradi do tam vruzka bqh slushalpoo televiziqta che 150 mb garantirantrafic do grubnaka na internet za nqk=va s i 15-20 000 evro na mesec predlagala nqkakva firma ama za da q prekarat po traseto na btk ste izlezne mnogo skupo i nikoi neste da kupuva i pri uslovie che pinga do evropeiskite servera bil mnogo maluk dosta po maluk ot koloto pri satelitite stoto ti go dokarvat chrez optika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boizon Posted July 9, 2003 Author Share Posted July 9, 2003 Az razlika ne wijdam Chiniqta e maikata, ama koito ne iska chiniq, da si kupi ot btk internet ) Ами липсата на dns cache пак ли е от някой телеком ? Или има връзка с работата на чинията на Иво Т. Димитров ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veno Posted July 9, 2003 Share Posted July 9, 2003 kak da nqma dns cache ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boizon Posted July 9, 2003 Author Share Posted July 9, 2003 kak da nqma dns cache ? Как да няма кеш ли ? >nslookup google.com Server: main.evrocom.net Address: 212.39.92.2 *** main.evrocom.net can't find google.com: Non-existent host/domain > ами това на какво ти прилича ? cups://212.116.135.255 public shared на какво ти прилича ? POLICEDEP7 netbios на какво ти прилича ? Или пък Cisco Discovery Protocol Cisco_d5:97:a4 SEP003094C39889 ? Аз ако не мога що ги виждам,а ? Ами пуснете един startls на qmail-a ! И tcp трафика в 16x адресите и той се вижда ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted July 9, 2003 Share Posted July 9, 2003 >nslookup google.comServer: main.evrocom.net Address: 212.39.92.2 Non-authoritative answer: Name: google.com Addresses: 216.239.53.100, 216.239.51.100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weasel Posted July 9, 2003 Share Posted July 9, 2003 ...blabla... itd->btk->france telecom... --- www.google.com ping statistics --- 50 packets transmitted, 46 packets received, 8% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 500.689/546.166/655.169/27.529 ms --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- btk -> deutsche telecom --- www.google.com ping statistics --- 50 packets transmitted, 50 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 256.696/266.630/292.284/6.447 ms ----------- ...blabla... ...blabla... Az razlika ne wijdam ...blabla... moje bi e vreme da idesh na ochen lekar veche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veno Posted July 10, 2003 Share Posted July 10, 2003 Как да няма кеш ли ? >nslookup google.com Server: main.evrocom.net Address: 212.39.92.2 *** main.evrocom.net can't find google.com: Non-existent host/domain > ами това на какво ти прилича ? cups://212.116.135.255 public shared на какво ти прилича ? POLICEDEP7 netbios на какво ти прилича ? Или пък Cisco Discovery Protocol Cisco_d5:97:a4 SEP003094C39889 ? Аз ако не мога що ги виждам,а ? Ами пуснете един startls на qmail-a ! И tcp трафика в 16x адресите и той се вижда ! towa mi prilicha che go nqma google.com w cache-a ne mi prilicha che nqma dns cache ?!? kolkoto do drugite neshta, kakwo kato gi wijdash ??? i koi e kazal/pisal nqkade che nqma da gi wijdash ??? startls kato si platish da si hostnesh mailserver pri teb moje da si pusnesh, kolkoto do tcp traffic-a na "16x addresite" sushto nikoi ne e kazal che ne trqbwa da se wijda, za teb specialno moje da se naprawi da ne se wijda... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veno Posted July 10, 2003 Share Posted July 10, 2003 ...blabla... itd->btk->france telecom... --- www.google.com ping statistics --- 50 packets transmitted, 46 packets received, 8% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 500.689/546.166/655.169/27.529 ms --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- btk -> deutsche telecom --- www.google.com ping statistics --- 50 packets transmitted, 50 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 256.696/266.630/292.284/6.447 ms ----------- ...blabla... ...blabla... Az razlika ne wijdam ...blabla... moje bi e vreme da idesh na ochen lekar veche weasel, az moje da imam nujda ot ochen lekar, ama ti mai imash nujda ot neshto drugo, shtoto qwno chetesh kwo pisha ama ne go razbirash. obqsnih ti che wremezakusnenieto ne e w razlikata m/u france telekom i deutsche telekom, kakto ti si se izrazil , a poradi prostata prichina che w ediniq sluchai obratniq traffic minawa prez satelit. ot towa ne wijdam kak da ti go obqsnq po-qsno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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