JDFU Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Nov e okolo 90 lv! Chakam predlojeniq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Имаш пм Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zizirixo Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Имаш пм [sna@back]213194[/snapback] още един Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinko Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 от колко време го ползваш и има ли бад сектори Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJMITAKA Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 от колко време го ползваш и има ли бад сектори <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Да и защо го продаваш????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFU Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 от колко време го ползваш и има ли бад сектори <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hard-a e na edin priqtel i e na godina i polovina. Predi malko go testvah i ne namerih loshi sektori. Да и защо го продаваш????? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> 80GB mu idvat tqsno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexitko Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Nov e okolo 90 lv! Chakam predlojeniq. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i za klko go dawa6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeimison Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Ами да пробвам с 50 лева тогава като първо предложение с цена Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFU Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 Ами да пробвам с 50 лева тогава като първо предложение с цена <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Heh tam e rabotata che ne e pyrvo moje da probvash 70+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PePfx Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 JDFU kaza mi 4e e imalo bad sectori ama ne sa se poyaviavali napolseduk i sega nqmqlo:) neznam kak da go tulkuvam tova:) EDIT: daa ama toi kaza 4e ve4e nqmqlo bil go testval iz4eznali bili, az kak da sum suguren 4e nema da izko4at sled 1 mesec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaskoBG Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Щом е имало bad сектори, значи си ги има и сега, което е кофти. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFU Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 Ne tochno. Harddiskovete imat rezrvni sektori, v koito se prenasochva informaciqta, ako ima bad sectori. Fakt e che predi 4-5 meseca e imalo 3. No sega vse oshte ne sa se poqvili novi, a razmeryt dostypen ot potrebitelq ne e namalql s 3 sectora. Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\BGB>chkdsk g: /f The type of the file system is NTFS. Volume label is X. CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... File verification completed. CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... Index verification completed. CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)... Security descriptor verification completed. Windows has checked the file system and found no problems. 16386299 KB total disk space. 0 KB in 1 files. 4 KB in 9 indexes. 0 KB in bad sectors. 66491 KB in use by the system. 65536 KB occupied by the log file. 16319804 KB available on disk. 4096 bytes in each allocation unit. 4096574 total allocation units on disk. 4079951 allocation units available on disk. C:\Documents and Settings\BGB>chkdsk h: /f The type of the file system is FAT32. Volume X2 created 10.3.2003 г. 20:03 Volume Serial Number is E84C-DC33 Windows is verifying files and folders... File and folder verification is complete. Windows has checked the file system and found no problems. 31 022 416 KB total disk space. 96 KB in 6 hidden files. 3 664 KB in 227 folders. 279 136 KB in 3 578 files. 30 739 504 KB are available. 16 384 bytes in each allocation unit. 1 938 901 total allocation units on disk. 1 921 219 allocation units available on disk. C:\Documents and Settings\BGB>chkdsk i: /f The type of the file system is NTFS. Volume label is X3. CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)... File verification completed. CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)... Index verification completed. CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)... Security descriptor verification completed. 30716248 KB total disk space. 4423316 KB in 329 files. 72 KB in 26 indexes. 0 KB in bad sectors. 67308 KB in use by the system. 65536 KB occupied by the log file. 26225528 KB available on disk. 4096 bytes in each allocation unit. 7679062 total allocation units on disk. 6556382 allocation units available on disk. C:\Documents and Settings\BGB> Issue: I'm getting Bad Sectors, Clusters, and/or Missing Allocations what should I do? Cause: Either of these can be caused by either bad or corrupted software or generally a failing hard disk drive. Solution: If you are running scandisk and or other disk utility and it is reporting that the hard disk drive is bad it is recommended that you backup your data and attempt to format the hard disk drive to identify between corrupted software or a failing hard disk drive. If you are currently formatting the hard disk drive and are receiving bad sector errors or bad or missing allocation units unfortunately it is a good possibility that the hard diskette drive is bad or going to become bad shortly and it is recommended that it be replaced. If however you do not receive errors during the format process it is a good possibility that you simply had corrupted software or data on the hard disk drive. Iztochnik Google i po tochno http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000180.htm Za tezi pet meseca e formatiran nqkolko pyti (windows ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GM]DINOBOT Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Абе вие маи не сте наред 70 лева за т'ва?Абе хора,размърдайте си задниците и вижте колко са 80 ГБ-чистак нови с гаранция.Аз моя,който е САТА и е 8мб го зех за 72 лева с 1 година гаранция.Ако някой го купи тва за повече от 60 лева го признаван за Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOwnSummer Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Ами да пробвам с 50 лева тогава като първо предложение с цена <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Аз ще направя второ предложение на 51 лв.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Vain Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Ne tochno. Harddiskovete imat rezrvni sektori, v koito se prenasochva informaciqta, ako ima bad sectori. Fakt e che predi 4-5 meseca e imalo 3. No sega vse oshte ne sa se poqvili novi, a razmeryt dostypen ot potrebitelq ne e namalql s 3 sectora. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Е по-голяма глупост не съм чувал. Я някой да го обясни това с резервните сектори! Няма такъв филм. Bad mean Bad! Най-лесно можеш да провериш едно hdd с format x: /u EDIT: Просто няма логика, той дори и да има лоши сектори, след формат те просто се блокират, защо трябва да се пренасочват. Абе.......дрън, дрън Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFU Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 Е по-голяма глупост не съм чувал. Я някой да го обясни това с резервните сектори! Няма такъв филм. Bad mean Bad! Най-лесно можеш да провериш едно hdd с format x: /u EDIT: Просто няма логика, той дори и да има лоши сектори, след формат те просто се блокират, защо трябва да се пренасочват. Абе.......дрън, дрън <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sled format te se blokirat softuerno ot FS-a. Dokato tova za koeto az govorq e se pravi ot firmuera(ili kyfto tam softuer imat) na harda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Vain Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Sled format te se blokirat softuerno ot FS-a. Dokato tova za koeto az govorq e se pravi ot firmuera(ili kyfto tam softuer imat) na harda. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Аха, ясно...ама версията с резервните сектори пак куца. Защо фирмуера просто не ги блокира (и скрие), а ще ги пренасочва към други (скрити/неизползвани)? Сложно и безсмислено ми се вижда Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEVIL_in_PLD Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Za tozi hard bix dal 25lv.Nito stotinka pove4e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFU Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 S.M.A.R.T. technology S.M.A.R.T. stands for Self-Monitoring Analysis and Reporting Technology. S.M.A.R.T. technology was developed by a number of major hard disk drive manufacturers in a concerted effort to increase the reliability of drives. It is a technology that enables the PC to predict the future failure of hard disk drives. S.M.A.R.T. technology has become an industry standard for hard drive manufacturers. Through the S.M.A.R.T. system, modern hard disk drives incorporate a suite of advanced diagnostics that monitor the internal operations of a drive and provide an early warning for many types of potential problems. When a potential problem is detected, the drive can be repaired or replaced before any data is lost or damaged. The S.M.A.R.T. system monitors the drive for anything that might seem out of the ordinary, documents it, and analyzes the data. If it sees something that indicates a problem, it is capable of notifying the user (or system administrator). S.M.A.R.T. monitors disk performance, faulty sectors, recalibration, CRC errors, drive spin-up time, drive heads, distance between the heads and the disk platters, drive temperature, and characteristics of the media, motor and servomechanisms. The errors the system can detect can be predicted by a number of methods. Currently the SMART system can detect about 70% of all hard drive errors. Here's an example: motor and/or bearing failure can be predicted by an increase in the drive spin-up time and the number of retries it takes to get the drive spinning at full speed. Or, if the drive notes that error correction is being needed excessively, it can attribute this to a broken drive head or surface contamination, and it will create an alert before the problem gets worse. Armed with a prediction of failure, the user or system administrator can make a backup copy of key data, replace a suspect device prior to data loss, and avoid undesired downtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Vain Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Запознат съм със SMART с-мата, но тя нама нищо общо с това което твърдиш и за което аз питам. SMART може единствено да те предупреди и да фиксне някой дреболии, но лош сектор не може да оправи/блокира/скрие. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFU Posted December 7, 2004 Author Share Posted December 7, 2004 Запознат съм със SMART с-мата, но тя нама нищо общо с това което твърдиш и за което аз питам. SMART може единствено да те предупреди и да фиксне някой дреболии, но лош сектор не може да оправи/блокира/скрие. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Moje i az da byrkam, loshite sektori ne sym gi vijdal lichno (kazah veche che e na priqtel), no sega ne namira loshi sektori. A nqkade bqh chel podobno neshto za SMART-a (iztochnika beshe nqkade iz internet moje i tam da byrkat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PePfx Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I az ne sum se sre6tal li4no s bad sectori no znam 4e i da gi vidi6 li4no, nqmq da ima kakvo da si kaje6 s tiah:) az pak syum navit da go zema, no da ne izko4i nekoi bad sector i s nego i cqlata mu roda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgi_bg Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Az li nesto ne vdiavam ili nikoi ne se e setil dosega? Sled kato harda e Seagate ,toi ima 5 godini garancia(3 godini pulna). A pri nalichie na bad sectori naparavo smeniat (pone pri men beshe taka). Ako e imalo bad sectori e triabvalo da go zakara vednaga. A inache ako e imalo i sega gi e zalichil te rano ili kusno pak ste izleznat. Ot tova spasenie niama (vsicko ostanalo sa gluposti) . Drug e vuprosa za tsenata. Az bih dal 50lv sled proverka(ot 15min) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PePfx Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Az li nesto ne vdiavam ili nikoi ne se e setil dosega? Sled kato harda e Seagate ,toi ima 5 godini garancia(3 godini pulna). A pri nalichie na bad sectori naparavo smeniat (pone pri men beshe taka). Ako e imalo bad sectori e triabvalo da go zakara vednaga. A inache ako e imalo i sega gi e zalichil te rano ili kusno pak ste izleznat. Ot tova spasenie niama (vsicko ostanalo sa gluposti) . Drug e vuprosa za tsenata. Az bih dal 50lv sled proverka(ot 15min) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> tozi hard nema garanciq ne razbra li? a i da ima garanciq , te samo 6te go formatirat i da go vurnat da ne misli6 4e 6a go smenaqt, garanciqtq na seagate e 3 godini, 5 godini e za golemite hardove i to ot nqkolko meseca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firmajiq Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Това знам аз: новите дискове ИМАТ система за пренасочване на лошите сектори. Още при производството се заделя една малка част (мисля че беше най-външната, ама не съм сигурен) точно за тази цел - когато се открие случаен, единичен лош сектор, той се пренасочва към резервната част (терминът е Re-map). Това го прави фърмуера на диска, за РС-то всичко си остава нормално, то дори не разбира че има лош сектор. Просто достъпът до диска е чрез LBA-адресиране, а дискът си връща информацията, без да казва откъде я е взел. Като резултат се появява леко забавяне в работата на диска, защото re-map-натите сектори са единични, главата на диска трябва да отиде специално дотам и не могат да се кешират успешно. Тази област е много малка, и като се препълни, хем диска става много по-бавен, хем се появяват и лоши сектори, които няма къде да се re-map-нат, хем и диска става по-шумен от непрекъснатото движение на главата до map-натите сектори. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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